I was going to name this one ‘Male Objectification’, but that’s wrong. For one thing, it follows the standard practice of somehow ignoring bi and trans* issues, in favor of a strict dichotomy of ‘straight’ vs. ‘homosexual’. The truth of human experience, and thus the grist for writers’ extrapolations thereof, is rarely that simple.
I’ve been following some threads over at AbsoluteWrite, re: the M/M debate. Some very sharp comments made me want to look a little closer at my own prejudices and reactions.
One writer said she was sick of being accused of homophobia because she “…Found characters boring or plot holes annoying. M/M is not immune from having bad books but try telling that to some fans.”
Part of this is a legitimate defensive reaction, I think. The Romance Writers of America has just recently begun to allow M/M works in some of its contests. The romance industry in general is still rather put-off by anything other than straight M/F romances, even boisterous erotic romances (I saw that recently during the countdown to a local romance writers event). So the M/M readers who came in from straight romance, who often do not even know about their literary or SFF counterparts, rightly feel maligned and sidelined.
In that context, Jessiewave’s objections to diluting the purity of a dedicated M/M romance review site made more sense. I still think they were framed far too broadly for reasonable discourse, but what do I know? I’m just a SFF geek in a new world.
When you love something passionately, when it fills a gap in your world you never knew existed, it is human nature to lash out when you perceive a threat to that love. I still do that, a little, when satirists poke at some of my sacred cows. Even though I know objectively that the satire does not hurt the original.
I adore Jack Black, but I cringed at his SNL Lord of the Rings parodies – until I remembered howling with laughter at National Lampoon’s ‘Bored of the Rings’ years earlier. I got over some of my discomfort, and realized my love of the material was strong enough to accept the ribbing. Some folks can’t manage that cognitive separation yet, if ever.
In the case of M/M romance, the market has exploded so much in the last few years there’s a glut of works available. It’s not always going to be gold standard, and critical review is necessary to justify the genre to outside scrutiny. Inexperienced and/or uncritical readers, however, will shrug off external critique as meaningless noise, and punish thoughtful internal critique as a slam against them.
That way lies danger. That path keeps the M/M genre from really opening up and growing. It keeps us from celebrating crossover novels that can match anything in the major genres’ highest-ranking awards categories. To the outside world, we’re still a joke, gang. We’re lumped in with Fifty Shades of Grey – which, while it has earned a bazillion dollars, is not the best writing around. We should be standing up to ‘Game of Thrones’ in the mass-market SFF world, and saying ‘bring it…’
Another AW writer pointed out: “Anyway, my annoyance is, as I say, the accusation that readers who want their m/m pure are full of self hatred/ hatred of women. That’s a huge generalisation, and I’m not convinced it’s even slightly true.”
Okay, mea culpa. I was harsh in thinking that. I know there have been long, scholarly tracts analyzing this claim in slash fan fiction, and I don’t recall what those researchers discovered. I’m not sure that the real psychological argument is self-hatred, so much as competition for self-insertion into the portrayed relationship. Psst, newsflash: women are often incredibly competitive, we just generally do it in different ways.
Again, my own solution was to empathize with the female character in some of the problematic M/F-in-M/M stories I read early on, when I was still ‘against’ M/F romances. Not to become her, and certainly not to regard her as a competitor in my fantasy life. Being a writer as well as a reader helps: I have to share mindsets with all my made-up characters, good and bad, whatever gender they present. Doesn’t mean I am them, at all.
I saw a writer posit: “What I see when I look at that site is a fetishization of cis gay men. Not respect for them or their stories, but fetishization. The whole “these stories are for gay men!” bit is completely disingenuous. “I have a gay friend” doesn’t excuse behavior that perpetuates the oppression of others based on their sexuality and/or gender.”
C’mon, we all know those writers’ websites and blogs. You’ve seen ’em, if you read M/M. Blogs with pictures of really gorgeous guys, sometimes verging over into shameless P0Rn. It’s eye candy, and most of the time I think it’s harmless. It gives pretty male models another career choice beyond Abercrombie & Fitch: they are celebrated cover models and convention guests, and most of them seem to bear it with grace and joy.
Ah, but I can also direct you to any number of M/M erotic romance writing that does objectify its male characters. Part of it – I think – is the plot-what-plot response of readers who frankly just want a quick fix unencumbered by literary complications. Part of it is the market, which is structured to reward swiftly-written and swiftly published series novels with a minimum of internal scaffolding. And, well, admission time: it is objectification. The main point of writing erotica in any form is to arouse.
Lastly, this: “It’s one thing to be annoyed by a M/F scene (for whatever reason) and a completely different thing to be “offended” by a FTM trans* or a bi male having sex with cisgendered female.”
It would be different, if the former reactions hadn’t been repeatedly blown out of all proportion on multiple review sites. The anti-M/F protesters have been at it a long time in fan fiction, and their reactions are often even more vituperative. It would be different, if that latter well-meaning statement didn’t point right at the lower status of bi and trans* people in our society – even compared to the male homosexual culture.
I’m a SFF geek, as I’ve said. I come from a different tradition regarding genderfluid, bi, trans*, and gay characters. I thought Marion Zimmer Bradley’s Darkoverian female-run societies were nearly as flawed as the horrific patriarchies of the Dry Towns. By contrast, I thought some of the loveliest and subtlest moments in fictional, functional matriarchies came from Diane Duane’s ‘Middle Kingdoms’ fantasies (where characters were assumed to be bi but not censured for anything else) and from Melissa Scott’s elegant Point of Hopes and its sequels (where a mother told her daughter ‘don’t be rough with your little brother’ because boys were culturally deemed more fragile.) Or Steve Brust’s magnificent Taltos and Dragaera books, where the long-lived dominant humanoid species wishes newlyweds ‘fierce daughters and beautiful sons’. Or Amanda Downum’s incredible MTF side character in The Bone Palace: a generous and intelligent concubine who forges a city-saving alliance out of a dysfunctional royal marriage.
There’s worldbuilding you probably won’t see in the latest M/M series bang-fest. For a frustrating long time, J.R. Ward herself only hinted at M/M relationships in her Black Dagger Brotherhood novels. Until fans begged, and the publisher took a risk. I hope the precedent is set.
Do I have a point with any of this? Only to wish the M/M genre might take more risks, challenge a few more assumptions, and maybe grow up a little, toward a sane mingling of the best of all genres.
I so nearly commented on one of the iterations of the debate a while back with something along the lines of fandom beginning to get over it’s girlcooties stance. Then fandom_wank popped up with some Loki/IronMan/PepperPotts stuff that shows that fandom, really, really hasn’t. There are differences between fandoms, of course, but at the end of the day the only result of talking about it for longer is the vocabulary has become more sophisticated. I’d like to say that at least fandom is aware that it sometimes crosses the line into fetishization of m/m relationships, but, again, it just keeps proving me wrong.
I keep hoping that as m/m matures people will be more accepting of variety, rather than feeling that this m/m/f has been published at the expense of that m/m, but if the communities that have been writing m/m for far longer than mainstream publishing has been willing to print it are still having these debates, it looks like there’s a long way to go.
Yeah, I know the one you are talking about. (Sad sigh.) If I thought the more-outraged fan wankers could learn from it, I’d send them to some examples of that particular fandom that I thought worked really well. But, oh, wait. Those examples worked because of fearless characterization, not by-the-numbers sex scenes and out-of-character foolishness. Not a knock against humor, folks – if you can make me hot AND make me laugh until I cry, I’ll love you for it.
I’ve been accused recently of posting these essays because I’m grandstanding, because I have a dog in the M/M crossover genre fight. No, and I wish. Moro’s Price is a capable novel, but it’s nowhere in the class needed to challenge mainstream SFF award winners.
This is me, begging for the really amazing M/M original fiction and
fandom authors to show their skill. To challenge the tropes and traditions, and give us all a reason to claim our validity in the face of mainstream scorn.
Because if we don’t grow up a little, no one else will give us respect.
Wanna know what I saw last night that really made me cringe? Bill Maher, using an alleged Tea Party erotic romance novel as a prop for a joke. I do not know if the book was M/F or M/M, but it had three buff guys on the cover. I haven’t researched the author, whose novel is apparently being used by her political opponent to show she is unfit for office. I like Bill. I don’t blame him or his writers.
I’m just saying this is on us to change.
I’ve been lurking on that AW thread because of my novel, kinda sorta M/M but there’s an F in there and meanwhile, I just don’t know what it is, how it would ever be received by anybody. A lot of doubt sometimes. Then I read stuff like this which just slays me. Are we debating purity of product now? Writers of M/M best not dilute their novels with a dreaded female, just to garner readers? Then there’s the issue of validity, as in, M/M novels are trashy erotica, screw the story, what story?
I’m navigating these murky waters, trying to hang onto my little novel, keep it above the tumultuous seas, at least until I get brave enough, or lucky enough, to get my feet wet. . .
Thank you for your thoughtful and honest post.
Kkbe, don’t give up and don’t back down. Tide’s turning. There are lots of crossover readers out there, waiting for great stories. Hone your book to a fine edge, make it the best ‘little novel’ it can be, then really do your research when it comes time to either submit it to a publisher, or self-publish. My fellow crazies on AW can help.
By the time you are ready, the M/M market may have matured. The mainstream genres may have outgrown their own prejudices.
But you won’t know if you give up now. And I’ll never get to read your book.